I usually wear lululemon's golf style shorts, then I tried red vanly and thought they were a little step, but WOW these blow both of those out of the water. I tried them on at my local golf shop (never heard of Swannies prior) and then found them cheaper directly from the brand themselves. The material is so BUTTERY, they pull on but also have a zipper and button, have the rubber in the waist to keep your shirt tucked in... perfect fit, perfect look-- feels like I have nothing on without compromising style.